Pascal Derrien

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Black Mirror: What If I Can Only Hear You?


Black Mirror: What If I Can Only Hear You?


You give me different names, you have written so many different stories about me in so many different languages that it’s hard to believe I was just a man.

You talked about love and about all things above and then you started to build a bomb with a glove.

I should have known better. I did not see it coming, you spoke about making the world better

And suddenly you became a mass murderer

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Armenian Genocide

1,095,000


Soviet Ethnic Cleansings

1.700.000


Cambodian Genocide

2,258,000


Bosnian Genocide

30,000


Rwandan Genocide

707,000


Holocaust

Between five and six million Jews

three million Soviet prisoners of war

two million Soviet civilians

one million Polish civilians

one million Yugoslav civilians

About 70,000 men, women and children with mental and physical handicaps

More than 200,000 gipsies

Unknown numbers of political prisoners, resistance fighters, homosexuals and deportees


ISIL

Unknown

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Contrary to your beliefs and other writings I cannot come back, first you stopped listening and then you became deaf long before we lost contact.

You kept asking questions but I could no longer reach you, oh father where art thou?

You think I will be your saviour but long gone is my power, I am awestruck with sorrow and stupor

I disdain how you worship death and its odour

I think the human in you is gone forever






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Pascal Derrien

4 years ago #34

#42
personally I don't do divine so I was trying to think what if it is the other way round in terms of narrative :-) thanks for dropping by Praveen Raj Gullepalli

Harvey Lloyd

4 years ago #33

#41
No i really don't have much to comment to the religious aspects of the comment. Our spiritual journey is our own and yes i have a spiritual leader but it is not necessary for you to agree or disagree. I guess the focus of my comment was that mankind will decide its own fate. I would rather die fighting for mankind than be drawn into a endless debate about who's fault it is. God or evolution may have created the world but, it is clear to me, we can make of it what we want. Those who profit from the debate of dichotomy's are the ones with the microphones. I am challenged by those who support their false arguments and join the herd. They will have made their riches and died while we suffer under their past ideals.

Pascal Derrien

4 years ago #32

#39
I think I like the analogy ''Many more will die in the fight of mankind'' and also that religion is a distraction comment. It would probably encompass what I was trying to say with my own words, indeed I was thinking that maybe the gods have abandoned us because they could not take anymore and maybe it has happened a long time ago and we did not even notice... now that's the hypothetical view from an atheist I have no faith no religion etc.. but I feel you may have a word or two on that one :-) last many thanks for a great directional comment :-) Harvey

Pascal Derrien

4 years ago #31

#38
thanks Dean Owen yes very often forgotten in the pecking order of horror sadly I could have added many more massacres organized or not...

Harvey Lloyd

4 years ago #30

I have watched this discussion from afar and seen the winding road of comments circle the true depth of your post, none to easy to comment directly. With respect and an open mind i would suggest that the true topic you discuss is that God has abandoned us as we look at the history of Man. If this is an inaccurate assessment of the post forgive the following comments. Most religions, (I hate that word, but lack a better descriptor that groups the logical, of all beliefs.) offer man free will. Man is offered the design criteria pen of existence, if you will. From your post i sense you and i share that the design pen has been used more for those of power than for the masses. If i were to convince 80% of the population that the tooth fairy was real through writings and teachings, would the evil of the world be caused by the tooth fairy? I sell nothing here nor ask that you consider some form of faith. But would state to blame a god for what man has done ignores the very existence of success we seek in our lives. In essence we lack free will. Many more will die in the fight of mankind. Some for their beliefs others because of their greed and still others because they rival another. But these will happen just like they have in the past, because man is exercising free will, while good men/women watch. The God debate is a distraction while free will of individuals bent on various egregious activities to rule the world move forward. One need not believe in anything, but to exist we have to believe in each other. The God debate pits us against each other just like republican/democrat, majority/minority and many other polarizing divide and conquer strategies. You exist, they exist and I exist. We must learn to do it together and identify those who stretch their, very human, free will to enslave us all. Power comes from exterminating others free will.

Dean Owen

4 years ago #29

One has to presume that man is inherently evil but without evil, can there be good? OR perhaps these genocides are nature fighting back? I am glad you highlighted Cambodia, too often forgotten.

CityVP Manjit

4 years ago #28

#36
The one thing that does connect traffic accidents with global murder is ignorance. Movies like "Blood Diamond" attempt to show us the price we pay for a material existence. In traffic accidents, it is the very material that kills us, in genocide it is for the control of that material. In Nazi Germany they called it "lebensraum" or living space for the master race. Notice how this holocaust account http://www.holocaust-trc.org/the-holocaust-education-program-resource-guide/lebensraum/ focuses on the relationship between possession and identity. Economist Amartya Sen takes an optimistic view to solve identity in "Identity and Violence", it echoes a call to look at our similarities rather than our differences, rather than appreciate difference as diversity. It echoes the sentiment of why we could as a human race get along, whereas the "Why can't we get along?" in the comedy Mars Attack is perhaps going to be truth until there is an evolutionary renaissance of humanity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPMmC0UAnj0 Our evolution as human beings has not come to a climactic end for we are still emerging from the dark ages, but how future generations evolve is definitely a part of our collective legacy - because it is in individual transformation - perhaps which may well be genetically coded in our DNA that evolution becomes genetic rather than merely memetic. It is similiar to when civilizations first appeared - similiar evolution occurring at the same time https://www.forbiddenhistory.info/?q=node/67 - though this particular link theorizes that there was one advanced global culture that was decimated by some powerful agent like climate change - rather than the way humans evolve is already encoded in those parts of our DNA that today seem to be doing nothing - inactive DNA.

Pascal Derrien

4 years ago #27

#34
thanks Nick Mlatchkov besides the external aspect of the animal I suppose the intent remained the same ?

Nick Mlatchkov

4 years ago #26

"Edward Gresser claims that Traffic accidents kill 1.24 million people a year worldwide; wars and murders, 0.44 million" These are 'victims of progress' 😀

Nick Mlatchkov

4 years ago #25

It's quite interesting if lions have been used en masse for that instead of horses in those days ...?

Pascal Derrien

4 years ago #24

#31
thanks CityVP Manjit for the supplemental comment it is nuts that we keep doing the opposite of what we say ... :-( it does sure warrant a WTF comment :-)

Pascal Derrien

4 years ago #23

#29
interesting perspective Aleta Curry there is some goodness in your thoughts but I think the realist in me have some difficulty with the equation.....:-)

CityVP Manjit

4 years ago #22

#28
Pascal, as much as I now go deeper and learn about Post Rock and what that is courtesy of sites like Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-rock, I can also ask questions that have been asked for nearly 70 years. Here I find the term "Never Again" - a mantra set by the United Nations in 1948 - Here is a piece about that http://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1667&context=ilj and then when I drill down to particular genocides such as Rwanda e.g. https://www.globalpolicy.org/component/content/article/201/39226.html I get into the weeds of assaults on humanity - and then with Rwanda I go deeper still to those who are considered by their nation to be heroic e.g. https://yvesengler.com/2015/12/28/the-fairy-tale-about-a-brave-canadian-general-in-rwanda/ and I come to an existential WTF moment. It is cool to hope, nice to be positive, wonderful to inspire and marvelous to motivate - but the best thing I like opening up things is to peer into new insights. For me "Post Rock" is a new insight - but here is the rub - until we have an education system and a polity for depth, for wonder, for learning, for truth and for the humility of insight - we are the few who have hopes for the many. Even so our steps in whatever direction make us a little more wiser, a little more awed and a little more informed than is the general cause. This is the best we can do until others also choose for themselves this energy for enlightenment. I am not a seeker of agreements or disagreements, I am not vessel of persuasion or dialogue, what I welcome most is people like you who open up new vista's, new questions and new ways of looking at our world - and then I explore and I welcome that.

CityVP Manjit

4 years ago #21

#28
Pascal, as much as I now go deeper and learn about Post Rock and what that is courtesy of sites like Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-rock, I can also ask questions that have been asked for nearly 70 years. Here I find the term "Never Again" - a mantra set by the United Nations in 1948 - Here is a piece about that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-rock and then when I drill down to particular genocides such as Rwanda e.g. https://www.globalpolicy.org/component/content/article/201/39226.html I get into the weeds of assaults on humanity - and then with Rwanda I go deeper still to those who are considered by their nation to be heroic e.g. https://yvesengler.com/2015/12/28/the-fairy-tale-about-a-brave-canadian-general-in-rwanda/ and I come to an existencial WTF moment. It is cool to hope, nice to be positive, wonderful to inspire and marvelous to motivate - but the best thing I like opening up things is to peer into new insights. For me "Post Rock" is a new insight - but here is the rub - until we have an education system and a polity for depth, for wonder, for learning, for truth and for the humility of insight - we are the few who have hopes for the many. Even so our steps in whatever direction make us a little more wiser, a little more awed and a little more informed than is the general cause. This is the best we can do until others also choose for themselves this energy for enlightenment. I am not a seeker of agreements or disagreements, I am not vessel of persuasion or dialogue, what I welcome most is people like you who open up new vista's, new questions and new ways of looking at our world - and then I explore and I welcome that.

Pascal Derrien

4 years ago #20

#25
the genre is defined as Post Rock, they are almost neighbours , they are not really well known even in Ireland past music nerds like me, interesting discussion point you are brining but I don't know about he comparison with road accident, I am actually a crash survivor myself in theory I should not be here writing this I kind of think that we cannot control the butterfly effect or destiny but conflicts can be avoided, shorten or simply stopped at least that's what I would like to think CityVP Manjit :-)

Pascal Derrien

4 years ago #19

#26
indeed Irene Hackett up to reverse the course or there will be a major collision :-(

CityVP Manjit

4 years ago #18

First of all thanks Pascal, I would never heard of "God is an Astronaut" never mind considered listening to ambient music, but having a listen to Age of the Fifth Sun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJPTcLbGS_I those Kinsella twins are putting together some good beats and they have some cool artwork to go along with it as can be seen on their website . As for the murder of people whether one calls it genocide and holocaust, the reality of that speaks for itself and it is gruesome. Just as gruesome is the comparative number of deaths that occur on roads. Take this article from Progressive Economy where Edward Gresser claims that Traffic accidents kill 1.24 million people a year worldwide; wars and murders, 0.44 million. http://www.progressive-economy.org/trade_facts/traffic-accidents-kill-1-24-million-people-a-year-worldwide-wars-and-murders-0-44-million/ We have preventable tragedies often within 10 miles of where we are or live and we can't stop that - how does one address the global conflict when the local collision is arms length - that we weep for the people far away but spare less time for the people closer to home - a home magnifying across the world in similiar tragic circumstances. We don't react to road accidents because we protect the injured and killed for their privacy otherwise we would see as gruesome pictures on our roads as one finds in the murderous actions in our world. When we are confronted with mass numbers we become numb to the size of the loss - but we echo sentiments of empathy and compassion, as if we are washing away the horror, while the extent of local loss passes us by because the sheer extent of it would send us into psychological disorder if we were to on-board such pain and loss that happens all around us daily. Pick up a local newspaper and needless death is there http://www.mississauga.com/news-story/7004138-funeral-friday-for-teen-killed-crossing-mississauga-street/ how can we heal war when we can't heal our own roads?

CityVP Manjit

4 years ago #17

First of all thanks Pascal, I would never heard of "God is an Astronaut" never mind considered listening to ambient music, but having a listen to Age of the Fifth Sun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJPTcLbGS_I those Kinsella twins are putting together some good beats and they have some cool artwork to go along with it as can be seen on their website . As for the murder of people whether one calls it genocide and holocaust, the reality of that speaks for itself and it is gruesome. Just as gruesome is the comparative number of deaths that occur on roads. Take this article from Progressive Economy where Edward Gresser claims that Traffic accidents kill 1.24 million people a year worldwide; wars and murders, 0.44 million. http://www.progressive-economy.org/trade_facts/traffic-accidents-kill-1-24-million-people-a-year-worldwide-wars-and-murders-0-44-million/ We have preventable tragedies often within 10 miles of where we are or live and we can't stop that - how does one address the global conflict when the local collision is arms length - that we weep for the people far away but spare less time for the people closer to home - a home magnifying across the world in similiar tragic circumstances. We don't react to road accidents because we protect the injured and killed for their privacy otherwise we would see as gruesome pictures on our roads as one finds in the murderous actions in our world. When we are confronted with mass numbers we become numb to the size of the loss - but we echo sentiments of empathy and compassion, as if we are washing away the horror, while the extent of local loss passes us by because the sheer extent of it would send us into psychological disorder if were to on-board such pain and loss that happens all around us daily. Pick up a local newspaper and needless death is there http://www.mississauga.com/news-story/7004138-funeral-friday-for-teen-killed-crossing-mississauga-street/ how can heal war when we can't heal our own roads?

CityVP Manjit

4 years ago #16

First of all thanks Pascal, I would never heard of "God is an Astronaut" never mind considered listening to ambient music, but having a listen to Age of the Fifth Sun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJPTcLbGS_I those Kinsella twins are putting together some good beats and they have some cool artwork to go along with it as can be seen on their website . As for the murder of people whether one calls it genocide and holocaust, the reality of that speaks for itself and it is gruesome. Just as gruesome is the comparative number of deaths that occur on roads. Take this article from Progressive Economy where Edward Gresser claims that Traffic accidents kill 1.24 million people a year worldwide; wars and murders, 0.44 million. http://www.progressive-economy.org/trade_facts/traffic-accidents-kill-1-24-million-people-a-year-worldwide-wars-and-murders-0-44-million/ We have preventable tragedies often within 10 miles of where we are or live and we can't stop that - how does one address the global conflict when the local collision is arms length - that we weep for the people far away but spare less time for the people closer to home - a home magnifying across the world in similiar tragic circumstances. We don't react to road accidents because we protect the injured and killed for their privacy otherwise we would see as gruesome pictures on our roads as one finds in the murderous actions in our world. When we are confronted with mass numbers we become numb to the size of the loss - but we echo sentiments of empathy and compassion, as if we are washing away the horror, while the extent of local loss passes us by because the sheer extent of it would send us into psychological disorder, if were to on-board the pain and loss that happens all around us. Pick up a local newspaper and needless death is there by http://www.mississauga.com/news-story/7004138-funeral-friday-for-teen-killed-crossing-mississauga-street/ how can heal war when we can't heal our own roads?

CityVP Manjit

4 years ago #15

First of all thanks Pascal, I would never heard of "God is an Astronaut" never mind considered listening to ambient music, but having a listen to Age of the Fifth Sun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJPTcLbGS_I those Kinsella twins are putting together some good beats and they have some cool artwork to go along with it as can be seen on their website . As for the murder of people whether one calls it genocide and holocaust, the reality of that speaks for itself and it is gruesome. Just as gruesome is the comparative number of deaths that occur on roads. Take this article from Progressive Economy where Edward Gresser claims that Traffic accidents kill 1.24 million people a year worldwide; wars and murders, 0.44 million. We have preventable tragedies often within 10 miles of where we are or live and we can't stop that - how does one address the global conflict when the local collision is arms length - that we weep for the people far away but spare less time for the people closer to home - a home magnifying across the world in similiar tragic circumstances. We don't react to road accidents because we protect the injured and killed for their privacy otherwise we would see as gruesome pictures on our roads as one finds in the murderous actions in our world. When we are confronted with mass numbers we become numb to the size of the loss - but we echo sentiments of empathy and compassion, as if we are washing away the horror, while the extent of local loss passes us by because the sheer extent of it would send us into psychological disorder, if were to on-board the pain and loss that happens all around us. Pick up a local newspaper and another needless death passes us by http://www.mississauga.com/news-story/7004138-funeral-friday-for-teen-killed-crossing-mississauga-street/ so we contemplate a four year election cycle and assume now is less tragic?

Pascal Derrien

4 years ago #14

#19
thanks Laurent Boscherini when I was in Bosnia I meet people who described their ordeal to me in such a way that if I had faith I would have lost it but no they still had faith.... :-)

Laurent Boscherini

4 years ago #13

Thank you Pascal Derrien for sharing your brilliant post, very seasoned. Faith is ultimately an act of will, not of emotion or deduction.

Pascal Derrien

4 years ago #12

#17
people like you are needed Donna-Luisa Eversley: it gives hope to the likes of me :-)

Pascal Derrien

4 years ago #11

#12
thanks Donna-Luisa Eversley yes maybe you are right..... but it takes too much time this is 4 years too late for too many and that's very disturbing..... :-(

Pascal Derrien

4 years ago #10

#11
debasish majumder I am gobsmacked by your comment this is surely meant for another post form somebody else :-) thank U

#10
Yes, the music and video is a perfect choice - very intense.

Pascal Derrien

4 years ago #8

#9
Gosh thank you Franci\ud83d\udc1dEugenia Hoffman the video is supported by the music of an Irish band which is not very well known but echoed perfectly what I was trying to say so I will take a bow on their behalf :-)

I hate to say this, Pascal, but this post is spot on! There are times when I see and hear the news (which I try to avoid), and I say to myself "what the hell happened?" Sara is also spot on in her comment, "There is hope in the world, one individual at a time. @Pascal Derrien is one such individual." We can't give up and we can make a difference. I also ditto the Bravo!

Pascal Derrien

4 years ago #6

#6
yes Deb \ud83d\udc1d Helfrich I was thinking that we have messed up so much that if there was something out there we have broken the lines of communication , he/they know but we have not realized it....

Pascal Derrien

4 years ago #5

#4
thanks Pamela \ud83d\udc1d Williams in any case what a mess we have made !!! That's why I was thinking maybe the gods have packed up a long time ago and people are addressing prayers to an empty shell ?

Pascal Derrien

4 years ago #4

#2
oh thank you Sara Jacobovici I am truly humbled by your comment (and probably blushing too :-) )

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #3

There is hope in the world, one individual at a time. Pascal Derrien is one such individual.

Sara Jacobovici

4 years ago #2

Dear Pascal Derrien, I am moved beyond words. I wish you could experience my giving you a standing ovation! Bravo Pascal!

Pascal Derrien

4 years ago #1

The atheist in me was thinking what if your god(s) had stopped believing in us ?

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